It's not perfect, but Modest is a heck of a lot better than the built-in email app.
Jacobyte
· 1 year ago
There's an excellent Last.fm client for jailbroken iPhones/iPod touches. IMHO, it's the best app out there for these devices outside of the built in apps provided by apple. I expect it to go fully legitimate and available on the Apple app store once the SDK is released. <http://dev.c99.org/MobileScrobbler/>
rcarmo
· 1 year ago
Very nice indeed, thanks.
Hugo Carvalho
· 1 year ago
Thank you for the useful insight on the mobility field of information management. Interesting times.
Stefan Constantinescu
· 1 year ago
"And here’s the clincher: nearly all the links posted on this site since the beginning of February were added from it – something that I never managed to find an easy way to do on the N810."
Can you elaborate what you meant by that?
minime
· 1 year ago
Thanks Rui, i was undecided between the N810 or the iPhone, since in need something to read news on my 40 min ride in the shanghai metro... I guess we have a winner :-) I thought the N810 would fare better, but i never got a chance to play with one.
Dear IBN, "I" don't need KDE or KOffice on a Mobile device, thanks a lot.
bernard
· 1 year ago
The Iphone isn't a good "always connected" device at the moment. The iphone is limited to GPRS (or Edge if supported), and that is terribly slow. I had that on my Orange SPV with smartphone 2002. I will never go back to that slow speed.
The N810 can be connected using any 3G phone, and the connection manager is effortless to use, they should add the tool on any laptop imho.
The killer feature of the N810 is the 800x480 pixel screen and the good quality web browser with flash support. Sure the Safari browser may be a bit faster to respond to user input, but it isn't any faster loading pages (check the tests on pocketables) .
The high resolution screen of the N810 makes the device the best portable web browsing device available. The Ipod touch and Iphone are OK web browsing devices, limited because of the low resolution screen, but the MP3 and video player part is where the devices shine. (the N810 is not a very good video or music player).
rcarmo
· 1 year ago
Erm. Was I comparing the N810 to the iPhone?
Or did you miss the several references to "iPod Touch" along the text?
I find it extremely odd that you would claim that the N810 is faster loading pages. In my experience, it got bogged down something awful when I reached three open browser windows.
minime
· 1 year ago
I was equaling the iPod to the iPhone, since the iPod is basically an iPhone sans GSM, he just replied to me :-P
Bernard, not sure in which country you live, but China has no 3g, and on my last visit back home in Germany few Months ago, the UMTS network sucked big time in the middle of the downtown. (e-plus and t-mobile if you want to know). So, for the time being i see Edge as the superior and more reliable option... besides, umts deflates my batteries double as fast on E61 and K800i... but we are getting offtopic :-)
bernard
· 1 year ago
minime talked about the Iphone, that is why I mention it.
I live in the Netherlands, and there are 2 very good 3G networks (the other 2 networks don't have national coverage). I also didn't have any battery trouble on my 3G phone (as long as you don't use dual-mode, but using my network you don't need to, the 3G coverage is excellent). I use a Nokia E60. But my N95 is also okay (a bit less battery time)
I use my N800 a lot on the train, and it is very comfortable browsing using UMTS 384kbit connection. I saw the N810, and the screen has improved, it is very readable in bright sunlight (at least in my opinion). So I might upgrade soon.
I also recently bought an iphone for a friend of mine and I saw the Ipod touch in the shop. The Ipod touch is very nice and thin, and a wonderful music player. The browsing experience over wifi is identical on a iphone and a ipod touch. The zoom effects in the browser are nice, but the browser isn't faster loading pages when compared to my N800, but the device is more responsive.
When websites have heavy flash plugins (youtube), the browser on the N800 can get slow-ish, but other than that I never experienced this problem on the N800 (I usually have 5-7 browsing windows open, mostly with flash disabled)
I think the bigger screen with more pixels on the N800 and N810 devices make it a better browsing experience. If the Ipod touch had 800x480 pixels I'm sure the device would be my favorite (I do not care that much about flash, but I would mis the greasemonkey browser extension that the MicroB browser on the N8x0 offers)
bernard
· 1 year ago
Also,
I think the screen of the N810 can be read very well in sunlight. I had a lot more trouble with an Iphone in bright daylight.
Antoine of MMM
· 1 year ago
Man; I wish that I could shake your hand. This is exactly my argument, versatility versus use. You hit the nail on the nail on the head as to why user experience and user interaction is so very important in a device that you are so physical with. The whole really does need to speak as one more often than speaking as bits and pieces of a dream.
Cristian
· 1 year ago
Explain me a 5 stars browsing experience without flash?
Chad W Smith
· 1 year ago
I don't understand how you could possibly say that the Touch beats the N810 - in anything - much less in Browsing, Text Input, and Notes. I mean, you actually get a REAL browser, not some fake POS browser that Apple claims is a real brower. If it's a real browser, why do so many websites have "iPhone versions" of their site? I'll tell you why - because the iPhone/Touch doesn't have a real browser. And then you've got the whole flash issue.
And the Text Input, are you freakin' kidding me? The N810 has a BUILT IN KEYBOARD! And an on screen keyboard. Not to mention that the N810 has BlueTooth, so you have a full sized QWERTY with your tactical response with you at all times.
And how many programs can you legally download and install on your Touch? What's that? Zero! So any lacking you might find in the N810's software can be changed by installing new apps, tweaking the UI, downloading a skin.
And, as has been brought up already, can the iPod run KDE? No? So you can't install a full desktop Linux distro on your iPod? Too bad, because N810 users can.
Branedy
· 1 year ago
Being an old Palm Vx user looking for a replacement, the Palm T/X at first, looked to be the thing. But now I'm not so sure. However your comment about one handedness, has made many Nokia users consider the N800 rather than the N810 better, as the navigation controls are better. Still I have to make the final choice.
Thanks for analysis.
ibn
· 1 year ago
can the ipod touch run KDE and Koffice?
rcarmo
· 1 year ago
Your point being? Or are you just trying to shift the comparison into la-la-land?
KDE and Koffice are not relevant (neither in general nor in this particular context). They are not part of the base feature set of the device. They are not even something most techies would find acceptable for use on a mobile device.
AC
· 1 year ago
"In general, my user experience with the N810 when I tried using anything but the browser wasn’t stellar."
Really... So the iPod touch has a better Skype client, GPS and Palm OS Emulator, huh? I didn't know that ;-)
rcarmo
· 1 year ago
I think you're missing the point. I don't care about any of those - I did a comparison based on what matters to me.
All Comments
IMHO, it's the best app out there for these devices outside of the built in apps provided by apple.
I expect it to go fully legitimate and available on the Apple app store once the SDK is released.
<http://dev.c99.org/MobileScrobbler/>
Can you elaborate what you meant by that?
I thought the N810 would fare better, but i never got a chance to play with one.
Dear IBN, "I" don't need KDE or KOffice on a Mobile device, thanks a lot.
The iphone is limited to GPRS (or Edge if supported), and that is terribly slow. I had that on my Orange SPV with smartphone 2002. I will never go back to that slow speed.
The N810 can be connected using any 3G phone, and the connection manager is effortless to use, they should add the tool on any laptop imho.
The killer feature of the N810 is the 800x480 pixel screen and the good quality web browser with flash support. Sure the Safari browser may be a bit faster to respond to user input, but it isn't any faster loading pages (check the tests on pocketables) .
The high resolution screen of the N810 makes the device the best portable web browsing device available. The Ipod touch and Iphone are OK web browsing devices, limited because of the low resolution screen, but the MP3 and video player part is where the devices shine. (the N810 is not a very good video or music player).
Or did you miss the several references to "iPod Touch" along the text?
I find it extremely odd that you would claim that the N810 is faster loading pages. In my experience, it got bogged down something awful when I reached three open browser windows.
Bernard, not sure in which country you live, but China has no 3g, and on my last visit back home in Germany few Months ago, the UMTS network sucked big time in the middle of the downtown. (e-plus and t-mobile if you want to know). So, for the time being i see Edge as the superior and more reliable option... besides, umts deflates my batteries double as fast on E61 and K800i... but we are getting offtopic :-)
I live in the Netherlands, and there are 2 very good 3G networks (the other 2 networks don't have national coverage).
I also didn't have any battery trouble on my 3G phone (as long as you don't use dual-mode, but using my network you don't need to, the 3G coverage is excellent). I use a Nokia E60. But my N95 is also okay (a bit less battery time)
I use my N800 a lot on the train, and it is very comfortable browsing using UMTS 384kbit connection. I saw the N810, and the screen has improved, it is very readable in bright sunlight (at least in my opinion).
So I might upgrade soon.
I also recently bought an iphone for a friend of mine and I saw the Ipod touch in the shop. The Ipod touch is very nice and thin, and a wonderful music player. The browsing experience over wifi is identical on a iphone and a ipod touch. The zoom effects in the browser are nice, but the browser isn't faster loading pages when compared to my N800, but the device is more responsive.
When websites have heavy flash plugins (youtube), the browser on the N800 can get slow-ish, but other than that I never experienced this problem on the N800 (I usually have 5-7 browsing windows open, mostly with flash disabled)
I think the bigger screen with more pixels on the N800 and N810 devices make it a better browsing experience. If the Ipod touch had 800x480 pixels I'm sure the device would be my favorite (I do not care that much about flash, but I would mis the greasemonkey browser extension that the MicroB browser on the N8x0 offers)
I think the screen of the N810 can be read very well in sunlight. I had a lot more trouble with an Iphone in bright daylight.
And the Text Input, are you freakin' kidding me? The N810 has a BUILT IN KEYBOARD! And an on screen keyboard. Not to mention that the N810 has BlueTooth, so you have a full sized QWERTY with your tactical response with you at all times.
And how many programs can you legally download and install on your Touch? What's that? Zero! So any lacking you might find in the N810's software can be changed by installing new apps, tweaking the UI, downloading a skin.
And, as has been brought up already, can the iPod run KDE? No? So you can't install a full desktop Linux distro on your iPod? Too bad, because N810 users can.
Thanks for analysis.
KDE and Koffice are not relevant (neither in general nor in this particular context). They are not part of the base feature set of the device. They are not even something most techies would find acceptable for use on a mobile device.
Really... So the iPod touch has a better Skype client, GPS and Palm OS Emulator, huh? I didn't know that ;-)
You're free to write your own, you know...